Jimmy Garner. And this lovely young lady was a fine actress. She plays Bob New Hart’s wife, Emilia, on the cleverly enough title, The Bob New Hart Show. Would you welcome your little Dingy? >> Not Dingy’s not. >> She’s not. She’s not. >> Well, I mean dingy. I mean outgoing. >> She’s outgoing, but she’s very lovely.

>> I’m not dingy. >> I know that. That’s what I said. >> Would you welcome the dinghy pushette? I was right. [applause] [music] >> [applause and music] >> pajamas. >> You going right to bed from here or what? >> I’d like to take a little nap. >> Yes, they look like pajamas. I mean, >> can handle us, right? How’s that? >> Very chic pajamas.

>> Something always gets caught where it shouldn’t. [laughter] >> Well, yeah. Elegant. >> Yes, it is. What [clears throat] uh how do they describe that in the women’s wear? I mean, what would this be? A lounging. Uh, >> it’s probably what’s wrong with this picture? Everything. >> No, I’m serious. >> No, because when I try and get my act together, something always goes wrong.

I usually get a spot on the elbow. I did. I gave an award the other night. Mary Tyler Moore was honored as the woman of the year by the Hollywood and radio television, what whatever they were, >> which was charming soiety. >> And uh I had on a just a very elegant white chiffon gown with little bows.

And I reached over with my boarding house reach, which was so classy. Grace Kelly never does that. The whole bow went right into the coffee and I was making the award like this. I thought, “Oh, the poor child is afflicted.” You know, >> you handle yourself very well. I did. And all those Japanese names, you know, Jetsu and I was up there all by myself.

>> These were for the commercials, were they? Not the best commercial. >> They are so funny, so wonderful. I didn’t notice any of yours represented there, but some of them were. >> They had their own separate category. >> I have to tell you something strange has happened in my life. >> Really? >> I’m a daughter again.

That’s why I’m trying to be very elegant tonight. >> You’re a daughter again. >> Yes, my mother and father have moved to Los Angeles. >> Oh, I see what you mean. I couldn’t figure that out. >> Is running the Schubert Theater, which is terrific cuz I get lots of freebies. I go in. Hello, I’m Mr.

Pchett’s daughter. Boom. I’m right in. >> He did that in New York all his life, did he? >> Yes, he had the Paramont Theater then when I was very popular and I haven’t had a friend since he lost the theater. >> And you get free tickets. >> Yes. Would you like to go, sweetheart? You might. >> I was just there.

I was just there the other night at the Schubert Theater to see >> Sunshine Boys. >> Jack Albertson and Sam Leavine and Sunshine Boys. Oh, it’s terrific. I love it. And they’re here. And uh you know, I had the blonde hair up until about 12 minutes ago. >> I know your hair changes frequently when you come here. I don’t >> I got a letter from somebody who watched your show. It was really very funny.

She said, “Next time you want to change something, move the furniture.” [laughter] >> Cool. That’s cruel. >> And it’s interesting that people who asked me why I did it were always people who had dyed hair. So my final answer turned out to be well. Same reason you did sweetheart, you know, and they left me alone. They were very sweet.

>> Well, what difference does it make? >> It doesn’t. I mean, it’s just fun to fool around. But my mother and father got off the plane with her plant, which she calls mother, which is the mother of all the other little plants that have sprung from it. And she said, “Jean, Suzanne’s not here.

” I was standing right in front of her. >> She said, “That blonde brought over there, that’s your daughter.” >> Your mother brought a plant on the plane. >> Yes. >> They moved everything. You know, they gave >> I didn’t know you could bring plants into California. Well, it’s not a rare exotic thing.

It’s just a frond, you know. It was a great biving. >> Oh, I didn’t know you could do that without stopping at the border or something. >> Just put a little avocado dressing. She said it was her salad. >> Oh, I see. [laughter] She came off eating a plant and who bothered her. >> Mother’s strange. >> Is your mother a little uh Is that where you pick it up? >> I beg your pardon.

>> Is that where you pick up your or love of life? >> You think I’m a tribute to mental health? >> Uh, yes. But >> let’s take a poll. I think I’m healthy. >> Do you follow your mother or father? [applause] >> Thank you. [cheering] Thank you. >> I’ve got a story to tell you if I may. >> We have nothing.

>> You know, you know me as >> We’re here for the show anyway. You know, >> you know me as a nice married lady, right? >> Certainly. >> And I told you that nothing racy ever happens to me. >> Yeah. I never read in the fan magazines about some kind of >> I lied. Before I met Tommy, >> did something happen? >> There is a man here tonight with whom I was nude. James Garner.

And I’m going to tell it to you right here. His wife and his child are here. And I’m going to tell you the truth. >> We did a picture together and I did my one and only nude scene. >> Are you putting this on? >> No. I swear to God. Picture called Mr. Budwing, which you may or may not remember. Chosen to forget it. >> And I had to do this nude scene.

I mean, I was covered. I had um >> Well, how do you do it neatly? I had pasties and little briefs. But when you’re the only one out there in that costume and everybody’s got a turtleneck and you know boots and a saddle and all of a sudden everybody has a light to hold and all the executives come down just checking.

We want to make sure the budget is right. >> Do they really do that? >> Oh yeah, everybody. Everybody. They’re silly about it. And I was dying and I will tell you >> what was the scene? >> Uh we were husband and wife in bed and then I’m seen leaving for a later scene where I’m supposed to be nude under a coat.

So you saw my back >> but here’s Jimmy Garner. this big rock, this tough guy who knew that I was in agony. I was dying. And he was so dear and so sweet and so protective that I will love him till the day I die. And I’m sure that’s not the story he once told about him, but I’m telling it right here now. >> So that was your own one and only.

>> My one and only. And then two weeks later, >> what were you wearing the pasties for? If only your back showed. [cheering] >> I mean, if that part wasn’t seen anyway. I mean, I don’t understand. Well, you you must understand when you have as fantastic a body as I do, >> yes, >> you have a responsibility to the the other people.

You don’t want, >> you know, I mean, we’re there to conduct business. No, we don’t want the crew crazed, you know, >> crazed. [laughter] Not to, of course, I understand it. >> But, uh, I I had these things stuck on and I couldn’t get them off [cheering] >> and I couldn’t twirl them either. I mean, if the truth, [applause] >> they didn’t light up, are they? >> No.

No. Exotic dancers use those, don’t they? Don’t they put them on with some kind of adhesive? >> Yes. But I think they used uh Kermabond in my [laughter] >> You’ve read about it. So, I mean, here it’s sexy, right? I mean, this little thing I figured I could go I mean, those days we didn’t have topless clubs, >> but I thought, how am I going to get this off? Cuz it can’t be my life’s work to work, you know, with these things.

I finally soaked them in the bathtub. Now, this is a glamorous I’m like this hanging and they went boom boom like that. And I never needed a rubber ducky again. I just let them just let them flow to you >> about three or four weeks. >> What a tender lovely story. Another >> another secret reveal right here.

>> Yes, there is a little tiny Hollywood hotline. >> If if I may just with all due respect to James, >> I um I was went to see two weeks later Americanization of Emily with a girlfriend of mine in Westwood and you know how wonderful he was in that >> and I’m looking at it like a fan, right? I don’t know that I’m an actress and I thought, “Oh, isn’t he wonderful? Isn’t he attractive? Oh my god.

I was in bed with him nude two weeks ago. It never it never had anything to do with the fact that he was there. >> It’s business. It’s >> But I mean, I will tell you that how this all wound up. Nothing provocative and sexy. I am the mother of his godchild and his wife is one of my closest friends. >> Well, that’s good.

We cleared that up right here on Hollywood Hotline. >> That’s what we’re telling you here. >> Hi, Lois. Sweetheart, darling. He was nothing. [laughter] >> Sure. You almost were out of the woods on that. [laughter] We’ll take a short break here and we’re going to come back after this commercial and we’re going to talk some more and [applause] if you’re used to driving a big comfortable car, maybe you should consider driving a smaller comfortable car. Take a look at this.

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>> [applause] [applause] >> We live alone. Um, [laughter] >> if you just joined us, uh, that’s the way it goes. >> Know what else to say, but we have your your friend and your co-artner. >> Yes. >> Jimmy Garner with us tonight and, uh, Robert Klein and Jack Haley Jr. >> That’s a terrific lineup. >> Yeah.

Do you ever do a western? You’re from New York, right? Yes. You know how physical I am. >> You’re active, aren’t you? >> No. No. If I don’t have I would prefer to be carried by litter bears everywhere. >> I don’t like to move. No, I don’t believe in physical exercise as you can tell by my body falling apart. >> No, come on now. >> No.

I once uh I once took a tennis lesson cuz we inadvertently bought a house with a court which we discovered after we’ bought it. And I I thought it was decadent not to try. >> And you took a lesson. >> So I bought all those outfits. I looked like Gussy Moran until I got the racket out and a man came, very lovely man, came up to give me a lesson and I uh did one of those shots.

My form was wonderful and I cut his shin open. >> That was the end of the >> Did I do that? He said, “No.” He said, “But I I think you ought to zip up your case and never play again.” So that was that. And as for horses, I’m terrified of them and have done several westerns. You will see me mount with great authority and then you’ll see a broken human being going, “Nomebody knew.

He moved.” Oh. Oh. And they have 17 wranglers holding the horse if its tail moves. I mean, I’ll only accept them if I can ride a cab. >> But you don’t like horses? >> No. I did a picture, another picture with Jimmy. I was dressed for this one. And I was supposed to have a rig with two horses.

And they said, “Just get in and go yahoo.” And then we’ll cut, you know, and then the stunt girl will take it and supposed to ride over Jimmy. And he’s got guts and he’s very agile. I went yahoo. And they didn’t know they were supposed to cut. And those two horses kept going right at Jimmy and they rolled.

The film kept going and I became hypothyroid. My eyeballs were out and obscenities spewed from I know you don’t think that I’m capable of this. >> Of course not. Knowing that as well as I do >> pleased to the Lord and obscenity simultaneously and the wranglers jumped upon the bodies of the horses and Jimmy rolled out of the way and that was the last time I’ve ever been.

>> Did they keep that spot in with you driving? That would have been good because >> it was out of character though cuz I was supposed to be able to handle that. >> Horses do the same way. I don’t know why. >> I also have trouble with guns. You know, when you’re supposed to I always have those heavy parts where you go, >> “All right, baby, and this is it.

” You know, I’m always a tough rod. >> The gun jams. I break my nail, my eyes closed when I fire it. >> Victor Wano and I have >> Who was that told that story when I some well-known western G Robinson? >> Yes. Was Mvin Lee Roy was on the show when they did Little Caesar. And here he’s playing the toughest gangster of all times.

And every time he would fire the gun, he closed his eyes. >> And they had a terrible time of getting him to fire this gun without blinking. >> Well, I’m not very good at that on I I’ve done about five different pictures with Victor Buano in which we actually played the same people of different nationalities.

One time he was Chinese and we were in Istanbul once and we’re playing the same scene. We’ve played in six other films. You’re going to give me the jewels or my dear, I’m going to get, you know, and he’s got the white suit on and I’m playing either Mary Aster or Peter Laughford. I’m not sure which one I was supposed to Peter Lori, right? And he’s Sydney Greenstream.

And there were Turkish extras and they’re very excited and they’re screaming and we’re having this whole exchange and two Turks fell out of the stands on our heads and attached itself to my hairpiece. And this Turk had my hairpiece hanging from his belt while Victor and I were saying, “And you’ll give me the jewels and I’ll go and [laughter] do very cool.

” >> And your hair pieces in your >> in the man’s belt. And I never knew it. >> You’re not cut out for this kind of work. No, I don’t think so. I’m really a klutz. >> Are you accidentrone? You mentioned those things happen. >> Yes, I fall off curbs. I’m talking to Tommy, but I always I’m never looking where I’m going.

I fell on the couch once while we were eating. >> Just went >> and fell on the couch. >> Just fell right there. >> Just Just came over you, huh? >> I told you I wasn’t physical. [laughter] >> Was it because >> Sorry, we have no children. >> Well, I panics you also, huh? Uh was it because of your upbringing being from the city? >> Uh well in New York you’ll have to learn to move fast.

You can’t be sedentary there. Uh I don’t think that’s actually the reason but I did have a strange upbringing you know cuz >> my father had at that time the New York Paramont and uh in those days things were lean you know uh when I was a youth uh two three years ago >> of course >> and when my mother couldn’t get a babysitter she would leave me with a house detective at the hotel aster in a bank vacant room till my father closed the theater and he would babysit for me you know he’d get free passes for that >> the house dick at the aster we know him well don’t we do Yes. >> And they go, “Have you got to broaden that room?” He’d say, “Have I got to broaden this with the bottle in my mouth?” You know, >> and then I’d go to Lindy’s when the theater closed. And I’d have my bottle. And >> that’s a strange upbringing for a child. >> But I never knew it was strange. And they’re so regular, nice, such good people with such good values that somehow there was a a wonderful balance. >> Is that why you wanted to be an actress because you were around it or did that ever occur to you at the time? >> Well, you know, it’s it’s a different field. The variety field really is a

different field. You know, I saw the great variety performers. I mean, the first time I ever went on stage, I was three years old and the Andrew sisters were playing at the Parammont and Patty was ill. So, Maxine Leverne took me on stage and I loved it. They couldn’t get me off.

You saw this hook, which was my father’s arm, pulling me off by the diapers, >> but that was my first taste of it. It felt comfortable. I think that some of the most wonderful people I know are in this business. You know, people tend to say actors are children. And I think they have more responsibility >> than many people in large corporations.

>> But we are childlike. That’s true. A lot of entertainers are childlike. >> I think that we’re willing to express emotion and show emotion in that respect. We’re pure, you know. I don’t think we’re so insulated, but I don’t think that’s childlike. I think that’s wonderful.

And I wish everybody could be like that. >> I’ve never been called pure before. It’s kind of nice. [laughter] >> Maybe I better reconsider that. >> Yes, but there are exceptions to every rule out [laughter] there. All right, I’m going to sell something. Then we’ll bring Jim out and get his version of this sorted affair that you had.

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He’s done, uh, a lot of different kind of roles from light comedy to straight acting, and he will be starring in an NBC pilot called The Rockford Files, which will be March 27th. When will that be? That’s tomorrow, isn’t it? >> March 27th. >> Wednesday. >> That’s Wednesday. See, he yells from back there, too. >> You see, everybody yells when they get on Wednesday at 8:30, right, Jim? >> Something like that.

[laughter] >> Would you WELCOME JAMES GARNER? >> [applause] [music] [music] [applause] [music] [applause] >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN? SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS IT 8:30? >> YEAH. >> Is it 8 8 or 8:30? I don’t know, John. I really don’t. >> They wrote it down for me. 8:30 p.m. March 27th. >> 8:30. That’s >> That’s a Wednesday. That’s right.

And that will be on right in our next >> How are you, D? >> Fine, sweetheart. You look good dressed, too. >> Thank you. >> She never lets me play with the rubber duckies. [laughter] [applause] >> Now, was her version of this uh this trrist, well, that’s not the right word for it.

This uh this movie you made together a fairly uh accurate description of the >> fairly close. Um actually, she wasn’t altogether nude. Uh we we had this uh we won’t go through the bedroom scene. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Uh but there we were out on the Queensboro Bridge. She was really wearing a trench coat over it. She just flashed a little.

You know, [laughter] >> your apartment was right near there. Remember >> I know the location. Well, >> it was 5° below zero. >> It was a scenery. >> Yeah. And I must say this poor girl and I, you know, I was so kind to her. I said, “Why don’t you get in the back of the limousine?” We didn’t have any dressing rooms or anything.

Back of the limousine and and we’ll keep you warm. You know, [laughter] >> always the gentleman that you like. >> Oh, always been a gentleman. And I’m very very concerned about the actress, you know. Of course. Um I tried my best to keep her warm. [laughter] I’ve got bruises, scars, everything. Well, you you’ve had your career though in the pictures you’ve made of have been several scenes that have been >> well it almost sounds pass nowadays because >> what are you trying to say John >> bedroom scenes the characterization of Emily >> Americanization >> Americanization of Emily yeah we had three nude girls that picture that was one of the first >> and that’s really almost passing now with what they’re doing in motion picture >> oh it was a big thing then oh they made such a they had a snit about that you know until they saw the film [laughter] and they said well that wasn’t bad. You know what was wrong with that? It was done in very good. >> Yes, it was. >> I liked it. [laughter] Um, >> you see, everybody thinks that’s very glamorous, but as you know, with all of those the cameras and the people and the

technicians and the directors and everything, that’s got to be a >> Imagine what Suzanne went through. 5° below zero with traffic going along the uh Queensboro Bridge and the poor girls out there with a trench coat and whatever else you had under there, which was very, very little. >> Yeah.

Uh they had three tugboats run into the bridge that night, [laughter] but other than that, but really it’s not, you know, we don’t it’s not all that glamorous. Yeah. Uh at times, >> let’s talk about this this the series. Well, this projected series, is it not the >> projected series? Yeah. Uh >> we may or may not. >> Well, you had a long run in you had a long run in Maverick.

How many years? >> They may be picked up, they may not. You never know when you make them. Look at you, John. Nobody had any idea you’d still be here. [laughter] >> Did I say something wrong? [applause] >> No, that’s true. No, when you start a show, you if you can look ahead 5 years, three years and say, I’ll be doing that show three years from now, that >> I look ahead if I for three days.

If I [laughter] I figure if I’m still doing it in three days, I got it made. >> Did you get antsy? Did you want to do something? Is that it? >> I think that’s that’s what it is. Uh, I I get tired of loafing, you know, when you you finish a picture and I always figure I’m in between job [laughter] that’s singular.

I mean, you never know if you’re ever going to get another job. >> Uh, I know so many actors. Henry Fonda is that way. Henry Fonda feels like >> he’s always doing something. >> I mean, he hasn’t been doing it long now, folks. Uh, something like he’s about 50 years and he >> if he’s not working, he’ll do a play or something.

you go on the road in in in stock, >> but uh I couldn’t find anything I really wanted to do and uh I was approached by Roy Huggins who did the Maverick series uh with me and uh he had a a good idea for a series and I we did it and I like it. >> Somebody once said that many actors don’t get depressed when they’re not working, but when they’re working because everything seems to be going so well.

You know, when everything’s going real well, a lot of people say, “Hey, something something it’s all going too well.” >> Yeah. No, I I when I’m working, I look better. I think I feel better. I I want to get up in the morning. The alarm clock never goes off. I mean, I don’t care if it’s 5:30 in the morning, I’ll beat it up by 10 minutes.

>> Yeah. >> I I’m anxious to go to work. >> Is your Is that series still playing? I’m obviously playing somewhere on reruns. Maverick, is it not? >> I don’t know, John. I don’t get residuals. >> You don’t? >> No, that was before residuals. I’m the only actor that ever did a television series for three years and it cost me $8,000.

[laughter] I’m a good businessman, too. >> You must have my uh Bert Bushkin. >> Oh, yes. >> Bombastic Bushkin lines you bombastic. [laughter] >> They call him and they in the trade. >> No, I uh I don’t know. I I understand. People tell me they see it occasionally, but I don’t uh I’ve never seen it. >> They had you now this happens, right? They talk about tight casting.

Somebody does a picture successful. You played a lot of roles where you played uh officers, >> right? Oh, yeah. or the young and >> the young JG and so forth. >> First thing I ever did was a Cheyenne episode and I was the I rateate lieutenant, >> right? >> You always got to have an iate lieutenant if you Yeah.

If you’re doing a cavalary or army or something. I mean, how can a hero look smart if you don’t have somebody dumb? So, [laughter] >> so you played the second I played the dumb guy, you know, you got to go by the book. Well, everybody knows that no hero goes by the book, [laughter] right? And I got to be the I rateate lieutenant.

I was good at it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I was dumb. [laughter] >> You like those roles, huh? >> Type casting. >> And uh then I gra then I graduated to the other guy. >> That’s right. Well, you were the lead. >> That was awesome. >> And I got another guy who played the dumb. >> Yeah.

Yeah. I like those guys that I got to look more superior then. >> Is there any role that you haven’t done or you you turned down in your career that you wish you’d have done? No, I don’t think so. >> No, that’s going to go nowhere. >> Well, [laughter] >> is there any role that you took that you wish you had? >> I’ve only played one. >> Is there any role that somebody else took that you wish you’d done? [laughter] >> Is there a role I always took the wrong one, John? >> Uh, no. I don’t know.

I’m not the type of actor who uh, you know, I don’t want to do King Lear. I don’t want to do, you know, Shakespeare or any of those. I, uh, I I do like to work, though. I like to keep busy. I’m Yeah. Like somebody said, “Why are you going back into television?” You know, uh >> gee, why not? I’m an actor. >> I’m an actor and uh that’s my business.

As long as I can keep working, I don’t care. It’s like people pick on commercials, you know. It’s really bad. I remember years ago >> because actors do commercials. >> Cuz actors do commercials. They say, “Uh-huh. He’s out of work. Uhhuh. He can’t get a job.” Bologoney, folks. >> Have you seen Sir Lawrence Olivier standing around waiting for his picture to develop? >> He You’re right. I see it.

Coming along any minute now, you know, and he’s uh >> uh when you’re an actor, I think you should do everything. And uh I wouldn’t be adverse to doing a commercial. I uh I think that, you know, that’s that’s our business if we should. >> See, he’s got to fit the commercial to the actor. >> Yeah. But there’s >> You don’t look like the dollar 98 upset stomach type.

You know, you got to get you something that matches. Uh >> uh who do you need, John? >> Very good. >> I’m the before. Uh, you know, years ago there was a thing if you were on Broadway. >> That’s right. >> You know, and uh some actor on Broadway would go to Hollywood, they said, “He’s sold out. He’s gone to Hollywood.” You know, they looked down upon going to do motion pictures.

>> They did for a while, but >> Yeah. Well, yeah. But then it came the motion picture actor. He’s doing television. >> They look down on it, right? Not so anymore. And it’s the same thing with commercials. And it won’t be long till >> you have you have Helen Hayes doing a television special now which I’m sure she wouldn’t have thought of some years ago.

>> The medium’s grown. >> I mean uh when you think that if you really want to put it where it is the mo there’s more money spent making television commercials than motion pictures and television shows together. And folks, we ain’t in it for the fun. >> Oh, certainly you are. Oh, of course we are. >> Yeah.

You did some singing and dancing on a couple of shows you were in. Did you? >> One of the best. John, >> what did you do? A couple of specials where you uh they had you singing and >> Yeah. years ago. I did one with Bing Crosby and I did a couple of dinosaur shows. The legs went John. The legs locked out. Legs locked in that.

And the w and the wind. [laughter] >> You hardly ever see him on point anymore. >> No, hardly ever. Hardly. I I can’t even get my Jeez. Dancing. Dancing is not my thing. No, I found that out. When you go in front of about 30 million people and you’re a klutz, it’s bad. [laughter] It’s bad. I can’t put one foot in front of the other.

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