The green room at NBC’s studio in Burbank felt colder than normal. Though maybe that was just in Dean Martin’s head. It was a Thursday night in late March 1972, about an hour before the Tonight Show was set to begin. Dean sat on the leather couch that had held nervous guests for years, drinking coffee that had already gone cold, trying to understand why he had been called here in such a serious way.
The booking itself was strange. When Dean usually came on Johnny’s show, it happened with a simple phone call between the two of them. They would joke about dates and what they might talk about. This time was different. His agent got a call from NBC’s talent office. Very formal, very business-like. They asked for Dean to come on a certain night. No changes, no discussion.
Dean almost said no, just out of stubbornness. He didn’t like being told what to do, but his agent pushed him. Said Johnny personally wanted him on this show. Said it mattered. Said Dean should do it as a favor. So here he was sitting in a room that felt wrong somehow. Like walking into your own house and feeling that something had been moved, but you couldn’t tell what.
The door opened and Ed McMahon walked in. Johnny’s longtime partner and announcer. Ed smiled, but the smile felt forced, like it didn’t reach his eyes. “Dean, good to see you,” Ed said, holding out his hand. They shook. Ed held on a little longer than usual, like he was trying to say something without words. “Good to see you, too, Ed.
How’s Johnny?” “He’s in his dressing room getting ready.” The way Ed said getting ready sounded strange. “Listen, Dean,” Ed said, lowering his voice. “I wanted to warn you about tonight.” Warn me about what? Ed looked at the door to make sure no one else was there. There’s been some tension between you and Johnny. At least Johnny thinks there is.
Dean set his coffee down. What are you talking about? Johnny and I are fine. Always have been. That’s what I thought. But something happened at the friars club last month. Johnny took it the wrong way. Dean thought back. The roast. He remembered it. He had made jokes about a lot of people, including Johnny.
Normal roast jokes and nothing cruel. The roast, Dean said. I made a few jokes. He said worse about me on his own show. I know, Ed said, but one joke bothered him. The one about him being a Midwest guy who never really got show business. Johnny thinks you were saying he doesn’t belong. Dean shook his head. That’s crazy. It was a joke at a roast.
That’s the whole point. I told him that. So did Doc and Tommy, but Johnny thinks you were taking a shot at him. That you look down on him. That you always have. Dean stood up and started walking back and forth. I don’t look down on Johnny. I respect him. I come on this show all the time because I actually like him.
I believe you, Ed said, but Johnny’s not himself lately. The divorce, pressure from the network, other personal stuff, and he’s stuck on this idea that you insulted him. So what? He wants an apology. I’ll apologize if that fixes it. Ed shifted uncomfortably. It’s not that simple. Johnny’s planning something tonight.
I don’t know what, but I’ve known him a long time. And when he acts like this, he’s usually setting someone up. And Dean, I think it’s you setting me up. How? I don’t know. Just be careful. Whatever he does, don’t react. Smile, stay calm, finish the interview, and get out. Don’t fall into whatever trap he’s planning.
Before Dean could answer, the door opened again. A young assistant leaned in. “Mr. Martin, 5 minutes.” Ed gave Dean a serious look, squeezed his shoulder, and left. Dean stood alone, his thoughts racing. He tried to guess what Johnny might do, what he might say, and why a man he thought was a friend would do this. The stage felt familiar.
Dean had been there many times. He knew where the cameras were, where the lights were, where to stand. The audience was coming in, filling the room with that excited noise you only hear before a live show. The band warmed up. Doc Severson played a few notes. Dean waited backstage and listened to Johnny’s opening jokes. Everything sounded normal.
Just another night. Then Johnny introduced him. My next guest is a singer, actor, and entertainer who’s been doing this longer than most of us have been alive. Please welcome Dean Martin. Applause. The band played Dean’s music. The curtain opened and Dean walked out, smiling, waving, relaxed like he always did.
Johnny stood behind his desk, not moving, just watching him. Normally, Johnny would walk around the desk to shake hands. He always did that with big guests, but not tonight. Dean reached the desk and held out his hand. Johnny looked at the hand, then at Dean. Then he turned away and sat down. The uh audience made a strange sound, part gasp, part nervous laugh, not sure if it was a joke or something real.
Dean stood there, hands still extended, processing what had just happened on national television. Johnny Carson had refused to shake his hand. The silence stretched for what felt like an eternity, but was probably only 3 or 4 seconds. Dean slowly lowered his hand, his expression unreadable, and moved to the guest chair.
He sat down, crossing his legs, the picture of casual composure, even though his mind was racing. “Dean Martin, everybody,” Johnny said to the audience, his voice carrying an edge Dean had never heard before. “The man who thinks he’s better than everyone else.” more nervous laughter from the audience. This was definitely not a rehearsed bit. Johnny Dean said calmly.
What’s going on? What’s going on? That’s interesting. Dean, you tell me what’s going on. You’re the one who’s been going around town making jokes about me, telling people I’m just some Nebraska hick who got lucky. I never said that. No. So, the Friars Club roast last month, that wasn’t you up there saying I don’t understand showbiz.
that I’m playing at being an entertainer while real talents like you do the actual work. Dean’s memory of the roast was already fuzzy. He’d had a few drinks that night like everyone else, but he was fairly certain he’d said nothing of the sort. Johnny, I made some jokes at a roast. That’s what you do at roasts.
I’ve been roasted plenty of times. Said worse things about me than anything I said about you. It’s not what you said, it’s how you said it. The contempt in your voice. The way you looked at me when you delivered the punchline. like I was beneath you. The audience was silent now, sensing real tension, real emotion. This wasn’t entertainment anymore.
This was two men having a genuine conflict on live television. “I don’t think you’re beneath me,” Dean said, keeping his voice level. “I’ve never thought that. I have nothing but respect for what you’ve built here.” “Respect?” Johnny repeated, his voice dripping with sarcasm. “Right. The respect you show by telling jokes about how I’m an outsider, how I don’t really belong in this business.
That’s not what I meant. Then what did you mean, Dean? Enlighten me. Enlighten all of us. Johnny gestured to the audience. Tell us what you really think about Johnny Carson, the guy from Nebraska who somehow managed to fool everyone into thinking he belongs in the same room as the great Dean Martin. Dean took a breath, buying time, trying to find the right approach.
He could feel the cameras on him, the audience watching, waiting to see how he’d respond. Every instinct told him to fire back, to defend himself, to match Johnny’s aggression with his own. But that’s what Johnny wanted. That’s what Ed had warned him about. Johnny was baiting him, trying to start a fight that would make Dean look bad, make him seem arrogant or out of touch or whatever narrative.
Johnny had constructed in his head. So Dean did something unexpected. He stood up. The audience murmured. Johnny’s eyes widened slightly, surprised by the movement. Dean walked calmly around the desk to where Johnny sat. And before anyone could react, he pulled Johnny out of his chair and hugged him. Not a polite, professional hug.
A real one, the kind you give someone you actually care about. Firm and genuine and impossible to misinterpret. Johnny went stiff, clearly not expecting this response. The audience held its breath. The cameras kept rolling, capturing every second of this bizarre moment. Dean held the hug for several seconds, then pulled back, keeping his hands on Johnny’s shoulders, looking him directly in the eye.
Johnny, Dean said quietly, his voice picked up by the desk microphone, but clearly meant just for the two of them. I’m sorry. Whatever I said, however I said it, if it hurt you, I’m genuinely sorry. That was never my intention. Johnny’s expression flickered, confusion replacing anger. Dean, I I don’t think you’re an outsider, Dean continued.
I don’t think you’re less than anyone in this business. You want to know what I really think about you? I think you’re the best at what you do. I think you’ve built something here that’s going to outlast all of us. And I think you’re insecure about it, which is crazy because you have nothing to be insecure about.
The studio was absolutely silent. Even the band had stopped their ambient noodling. I grew up in Stubenville, Ohio, Dean said, still holding Johnny’s shoulders. Working-class Italian family. Nobody thought I’d amount to anything. You grew up in Nebraska. Working-class family. Same story.
We both had to fight to get here, fight to stay here, fight to prove we belonged. So yeah, sometimes I make jokes about it. Not because I think less of you, but because I recognize myself in you. Because we’re the same, Johnny. Two guys from nowhere who made it to the top through talent and hard work and refusing to quit. If you’re finding this moment powerful, please take a moment to hit that like button.
Johnny’s eyes had gone red, though no tears fell. His jaw worked, trying to form words that wouldn’t come. So, I’m sorry, Dean said again. Not for the joke, because jokes are just jokes, but for not realizing you were in a place where that joke would land wrong. For not checking in with you, making sure you knew how much I respect what you do. That’s on me.

” He released Johnny’s shoulders, stepped back, extended his hand again, “Friends.” Johnny looked at the hand, then at Dean, then at the audience watching this unfold. For a moment, he seemed paralyzed by indecision, by the vulnerability of the moment, by the fact that Dean had completely disarmed him with simple honesty instead of fighting back.
Then, slowly, Johnny reached out and shook Dean’s hand. The audience erupted in applause, a genuine release of tension, relief that the conflict had resolved itself in such an unexpected way. Johnny pulled Dean into another hug. And this time, Johnny was the one holding on, his shoulders shaking slightly in a way that suggested he was either laughing or crying or both.
When they finally separated, both men were wiping their eyes. Johnny gestured for Dean to sit down, then slumped back into his own chair behind the desk. They sat in silence for a moment while the audience settled down, both of them trying to regain their composure. “Well,” Johnny said finally, his voice. “That wasn’t how I planned this interview going.” Dean smiled.
How did you plan it? Honestly, I wanted to call you out, make you look arrogant, prove to everyone that you’re not as cool as you pretend to be. Johnny ran a hand through his hair. I had this whole thing planned. I was going to refuse to shake your hand, get into an argument with you, make you lose your temper on national television.
Why? Because I’m going through a divorce that’s tearing me apart. Because the uh network keeps breathing down my neck about ratings even though we’re number one. because I’m 46 years old and terrified that any day now people are going to realize I’m a fraud who doesn’t deserve any of this.
” Johnny gestured around the studio and it’s easier to tear down someone else than deal with my own insecurity. The audience was silent again, but it was a different kind of silence now. Not tension, but attention. Everyone in the studio was leaning forward, invested in this moment of genuine human connection happening on what was supposed to be a light entertainment show.
You’re not a fraud, Dean said. You’re the best in the business at what you do. And Johnny, we all feel like frauds sometimes. That’s not unique to you. I’ve been performing for 40 years, and there are still nights I walk on stage convinced everyone’s going to realize I can’t actually sing, that I’ve been faking it this whole time.
You You always seem so confident. That’s called performing. That’s what we do. We perform confidence even when we don’t feel it. But that doesn’t make the doubt go away. It just means we’re good at hiding it. Johnny nodded slowly, processing this. I really did think you were insulting me at that roast.
I know, and maybe I was a little bit without realizing it. Sometimes when you’ve been doing this as long as I have, you forget that not everyone processes jokes the same way. What feels like friendly ribbing to me might feel like a genuine attack to you. That’s my fault for not being more aware. So, what do we do now? Johnny asked.
We’ve just had a therapy session on live television. How do we turn this back into a normal interview? Dean grinned. Well, you could ask me about my new album. That’s usually why people book me on talk shows. Johnny laughed genuine and relieved. Right. Yes, you have a new album. Tell me about it. And just like that, they were back to normal.
Dean talked about his new record, told some funny stories from the recording sessions, did the standard talk show pattern. Johnny asked questions, made jokes, played the role of the interested host. The band played them in and out of commercial breaks. Everything proceeded as it should, but everyone in that studio knew they’d witnessed something rare and significant.
Not the planned entertainment, but the real moment that had happened before it. The conflict, the vulnerability, the resolution. During the commercial break, Johnny leaned over to Dean. Thank you for not fighting back, for not making this worse. Thank you for being honest about what was really going on. That took more guts than anything I did.
They finished the show without further incident. Dean sang a song, did some banter with Ed McMahon, shook hands with Johnny again when it was time to leave. The audience gave him a standing ovation, responding not just to the performance, but to what they’d witnessed earlier. Backstage, Ed McMahon found Dean before he left.
That was incredible. The hug, the apology, the whole thing. I’ve never seen anyone handle Johnny like that when he’s in attack mode. I just told him the truth, Dean said. Seemed simpler than playing games. Most people would have fought back, defended themselves, gotten angry. Most people aren’t secure enough to admit when they’ve hurt someone, even accidentally.
I learned a long time ago that ego is expensive. Costs you relationships, costs you respect, costs you peace of mind. Better to just be honest and deal with the consequences. The incident became the talk of Hollywood within 24 hours. The tape of Dean hugging Johnny of the raw emotional exchange that followed played on news programs and entertainment shows across the country.
Critics wrote think pieces about vulnerability and entertainment, about the difference between real and performed emotion, about what it meant that two of the biggest names in show business had stripped away the pretense and just talked to each other. Honestly, some people loved it, thought it was the most genuine moment television had produced in years.
Others hated it, thought it was uncomfortable and inappropriate, that conflicts should be handled privately rather than aired for public consumption. Dean didn’t particularly care what critics thought. He cared that Johnny had called him 2 days after the show, thanked him again, and asked if they could get dinner sometime to talk more.
Real talk, not show business talk. They did get dinner at a quiet restaurant where they could speak freely without being overheard. Johnny apologized again for the ambush, explained more about what he was going through personally, how the stress was making him paranoid and defensive. Dean listened, offered his own experiences with divorce and professional pressure and the weight of public expectation.
They talked for 3 hours, drinking wine and eating food they barely tasted. Two men who’d known each other for years, finally getting to know each other as actual people rather than professional colleagues. Can I ask you something? Johnny said near the end of the dinner. When I refused to shake your hand, when I was clearly trying to start a fight, why didn’t you get angry? Most people would have at least gotten defensive.
Dean considered the question. Because anger is what you wanted. You were looking for a fight, and fights require two participants. If I refuse to fight, you couldn’t have one. But weren’t you upset? Insulted? Sure, for about 2 seconds. Then I realized this wasn’t about me. It was about whatever you were going through.
And getting angry at someone who’s hurting doesn’t help anyone. It just makes everything worse. Johnny shook his head in admiration. I wish I could be that rational when I’m upset. It’s not rational. It’s just experience. I’ve been on both sides of that equation, Johnny. I’ve been the guy who’s hurting and lashing out, and I’ve been the guy on the receiving end.
When you’ve lived enough, you learn to recognize the patterns. And you learn that meeting anger with anger just creates more anger. Meeting it with compassion, even when you don’t feel like it, that’s what breaks the cycle. You make it sound easy. It’s not easy. It’s a choice. And sometimes it’s the hardest choice you can make, but it’s always the right one.
They remained friends after that dinner, closer than they’d been before. Johnny started inviting Dean on the show more regularly, not as a guest, but as a friend who happened to be good television. Their interactions had a different quality now, more genuine, less performative. And whenever Johnny would start to spiral into insecurity or paranoia, which happened periodically given the pressures of his position, he’d call Dean. They’d talk.
Dean would provide perspective and Johnny would come back to center. Years later, when Johnny was preparing to retire from the Tonight Show, he did a retrospective interview where journalists asked about the most memorable moments from his three decades behind the desk. He mentioned the famous interviews, the legendary bits, the cultural moments that had happened on his stage.
But when asked about the most important moment, the one that had changed him rather than just entertained audiences, he didn’t hesitate. Dean Martin refusing to fight me when I tried to pick a fight with him. That night changed how I thought about conflict, about masculinity, about what strength actually means.
Most people think strength is standing your ground, fighting back, never backing down. Dean showed me that real strength is having the courage to be vulnerable, to admit when you’re wrong, to choose compassion over pride. The interviewer asked him to elaborate. I was going through a rough time, Johnny explained.
Divorce, career pressure, personal demons. I wasn’t dealing with. And instead of facing those issues, I decided to pick a fight with Dean Martin, convince myself he was the problem. Instead of looking at my own behavior, I planned this whole ambush on live television, refused to shake his hand, tried to humiliate him in front of millions of people.
What happened? He hugged me. Just walked up and hugged me. Told me he was sorry for hurting my feelings, even though he hadn’t done anything wrong. Completely disarmed me with simple human kindness. And in that moment, I realized what an ass I was being. How I was letting my own pain turn me into someone I didn’t want to be.
Did that change your approach to the show? It changed my approach to everything. After that night, whenever I felt myself getting defensive or angry or ready to lash out, I’d think about Dean, about how he could have destroyed me on my own show, but chose kindness instead. And I’d ask myself if I wanted to be the kind of person who fought back, or the kind who chose the harder path of compassion.
And if you’re still watching, please consider subscribing to see more stories like this. The clip of Dean hugging Johnny became one of the most replayed moments in talk show history. It got shown in communication classes, in conflict resolution seminars, in therapy sessions as an example of deescalation and vulnerability in action.
But for the people who’d been in that studio that night, who’d witnessed it live, it remained something more than just a clip or a teaching tool. It was a reminder that beneath all the performance and pretense, entertainers were human beings dealing with the same insecurities and pain as everyone else.
And sometimes the most revolutionary thing you could do was simply be honest about that. Dean never sought credit for how he’d handled that night. When people brought it up, he’d deflect, say he just did what felt right in the moment. He didn’t think of himself as noble or wise, just someone who’d lived long enough to know that pride was a poor substitute for genuine connection.
But people who knew him well understood that the incident revealed something fundamental about who Dean Martin was beneath the entertainer persona. He was someone who valued relationships over ego, who understood that being right mattered less than being kind, who knew that the strongest response to hostility was often simply refusing to participate in the battle.
John, Dean’s wife, watched the show that night from home and called him immediately after it ended. That was either the bravest or the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen you do,” she said when he answered. Which one are you leaning toward? Brave. Definitely brave, Johnny was trying to destroy you on national television, and you responded by apologizing and hugging him.
Do you have any idea how many people would have taken the bait and fought back? Probably most people, but I’m not most people. No, you’re not. You’re someone who somehow manages to be secure enough to apologize even when you’re not wrong. That’s rare, Dean. That’s special. I just didn’t want to fight, Dean said. Life’s too short to spend it being angry at people who are really just hurting and don’t know how to express it properly.
The incident had unexpected professional consequences as well. Several directors and producers who’d been hesitant to work with Dean, worried he might be difficult or demanding, reconsidered after seeing how he’d handled the Carson situation. If he could remain that calm and compassionate under a hostile ambush on live television, he’d probably be pretty easy to work with on a film set.
Dean’s career experienced a resurgence, not because he’d tried to create one, but because people had seen something in him that night that they responded to. Authenticity, emotional maturity, the kind of quiet strength that doesn’t need to prove itself through aggression. But perhaps the most significant impact was on Johnny Carson himself.
The incident forced him to confront his own insecurities, to start therapy, to develop better coping mechanisms for the pressures of his position. He became, by all accounts, a kinder person after that night, more aware of how his moods affected others, more willing to admit when he was wrong, and he never forgot the lesson Dean had taught him, that you don’t have to fight every battle, that sometimes the strongest thing you can do is refuse to fight at all.
Years later, at a private party after Johnny’s final Tonight Show taping, Dean and Johnny found themselves in a quiet corner away from the celebration. “You remember that night?” Johnny asked when I refused to shake your hand. I remember. I’ve thought about it a lot over the years. How differently my life might have gone if you’d fought back.
If you’d met my anger with anger, we probably would have had a falling out, stopped speaking, spent years bad mouthing each other in the press. Instead, we became actual friends, Dean observed. Better than friends. You became someone I could trust, someone I could be honest with about my struggles. That’s rare and this business, Dean, that’s valuable beyond measure.
You would have figured it out eventually, Dean said. With or without me, maybe. Or maybe I would have kept spiraling, kept letting my insecurities poison my relationships, kept being the guy who picked fights instead of dealing with his problems. You gave me a different path that night. Showed me what emotional maturity actually looks like.
Dean smiled. I just hugged you, Johnny. Don’t make it more profound than it was. But that’s exactly what made it profound. The simplicity of it. The fact that your response to hostility was just basic human kindness in a business built on ego and competition and oneupmanship. That was revolutionary.
They stood together in comfortable silence. two men who’d started as colleagues become adversaries for one night and emerged as genuine friends. The party continued around them, people celebrating the end of an era, but neither of them were particularly interested in the festivities. “Can I tell you something?” Johnny said eventually.
“Something I’ve never told anyone else.” “Of course. That night when you hugged me, when you apologized even though you hadn’t done anything wrong, I wanted to cry. not just tear up, but actually so because it had been so long since someone had shown me genuine kindness without wanting something in return.
Everyone in my life wanted something. Access or airtime or career advancement, but you just wanted to fix what was broken between us. No agenda, no angle, just authentic human compassion. “Did you cry?” Dean asked. Later, when I got home, sat in my living room and cried like a child. Not from sadness, but from relief.
because I realized I didn’t have to be the person I’d been that night, defensive and angry and looking for fights. I could choose to be better. “You are better,” Dean said. “You’ve always been better. You just needed a reminder.” The conversation drifted to other topics. Memories from over the years, plans for the future now that Johnny was retiring.
But the core of what they’d discussed remained unspoken but understood. One moment of choosing compassion over conflict had changed both their lives, had created a friendship that sustained them through difficult times, had shown them both that the person you are when you’re under attack reveals more about your character than anything you do when things are easy.
The party wound down eventually. People said their goodbyes, promised to stay in touch, did all the things people do when an era ends and the future feels uncertain. Dean and Johnny shook hands one final time, then pulled each other into a hug that mirrored the one from that night so many years ago. “Thank you,” Johnny said quietly. “For everything.
Thank you for being brave enough to be vulnerable,” Dean replied. “That’s harder than anything else we do.” They separated and Dean headed home to Jon and his normal life away from cameras and audiences. Johnny stayed behind to handle the final details of closing down the show that had defined his professional life. But both of them carried the memory of that night, the handshake that didn’t happen and the hug that did.
The moment when ego could have destroyed everything, but compassion saved it instead. That’s the real story. Not the conflict, but the resolution. Not the anger, but the understanding that came after. Not the performance, but the genuine human moment that broke through all the artifice and pretense. Dean Martin refused to fight when fighting was expected.
He chose kindness when cruelty was justified. He apologized when he had every right to defend himself. And in doing so, he showed everyone watching in that studio and across America what real strength looked like. [snorts] It wasn’t loud or aggressive or doineering. It was quiet and compassionate and secure enough to prioritize relationships over pride.
That’s the lesson that outlasted everything else about that night. that you don’t have to meet. Anger with anger. That vulnerability is power. That sometimes the most revolutionary thing you can do is simply refuse to play the game everyone expects you to play. Dean understood that instinctively, lived it daily, made it look effortless, even though it required constant conscious choice.
And one Thursday evening in March of 1972, he demonstrated it perfectly on national television, turning what should have been a disaster into a masterclass in emotional intelligence and human decency. The cameras captured it all. The refused handshake, the unexpected hug, the honest conversation, the reconciliation, every second preserved on tape, available for anyone who needs a reminder that there’s always a choice in how we respond to conflict.
We can fight or we can hug. We can defend or we can apologize. We can prove we’re right or we can prioritize being kind. Dean Martin chose kindness. And in choosing it, he changed not just one relationship but showed countless others that there was another way to handle conflict, another path through anger, another option beyond fighting back.
That’s why the story matters. That’s why it endures. That’s why decades later, people still talk about the night Johnny Carson refused to shake Dean Martin’s hand and what Dean did in response. Not because it was entertaining, though it was. Not because it was dramatic, though it certainly was that, but because it was real, and because it showed us all something we desperately needed to see.
That compassion is stronger than pride. That connection matters more than being right. That the best response to someone trying to hurt you is often simply to love them anyway. If this story moved you, if it reminded you that kindness is always an option, even when it’s not expected, please take a moment to like this video and subscribe to the channel.
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