The ‘Oversized’ British Gun That Was The Only Allied Weapon Tiger Crews Truly Feared

February 1943, Tunisia. Tiger tanks advance with the confidence of a weapon that has never been properly answered. The Tiger’s 100 mm of frontal armor has already shrugged off everything the British have thrown at it. The two pounder bounces off. The six pounder struggles. Even the American 75 mm guns are useless beyond point blank range.

German tank crews behave like they are untouchable. Then Hunts Gap happens. Over several days of brutal fighting, tigers are stopped by mines, battered by concentrated artillery, and immobilized under fire. Some are abandoned. Others are knocked out at ranges where British guns should be harmless.

 The losses are severe enough that battalion histories would later call it the Tiger Graveyard. And in the middle of that chaos, British gunners introduce a weapon that looks almost comically oversized. Its barrel so long it seems impractical, mounted on an improvised carriage never designed to handle its ferocious recoil.

 The Germans have just met the 17 pounder, and the armor equation will never be quite the same. What makes this story remarkable is not just what the 17 pounder did, but when the British started building it, development began at a London meeting in November 1940. More than two full years before the Tiger tank even existed.

While German engineers were still drawing blueprints for their heavy tank, British ordinance designers were already creating the weapon that would kill it. This was not luck. This was foresight on a level that would prove decisive. The problem they anticipated was straightforward. Tank armor was getting thicker. Everyone knew it.

 The two pounder anti-tank gun that had served adequately in France could penetrate perhaps 40 mm of armor at 500 yd. The six pounder then in development would manage around 75 mm. But intelligence reports suggested the next generation of German tanks might carry 100 mm or more. The British needed something dramatically more powerful.

 The situation in the field confirmed this urgency. British tank crews in North Africa were already discovering that their weapons bounced harmlessly off German armor at ranges where axis guns killed with ease. The Matilda tank, once queen of the desert, was becoming vulnerable. The Crusader’s two pounder was inadequate.

 Even the new Grants and Shermans arriving from America carried 75 mm guns optimized for infantry support, not tank killing. Against the current generation of German armor, these weapons struggled against what was coming. They would be helpless. On May 15th, 1941, the Ordinance Committee formally authorized development of a gun capable of penetrating 120 to 150 mm of armor at 730 m.

 The specification called for a 3-in caliber, firing a 17lb projectile at velocities no existing anti-tank gun could match. A crucial decision made that April mandated the gun be designed as one piece common to both tank and anti-tank mountings. This seemingly bureaucratic requirement would later enable the rapid creation of the Sherman Firefly.

 The designers at Royal Ordinance Factory Woolwitch faced an enormous challenge. To achieve the required penetration, the projectile needed to leave the barrel at over 900 m/s, roughly three times the speed of sound. This demanded a barrel 55 calibers long, stretching over 4 meters, and a breach mechanism capable of handling chamber pressures that would destroy lesser weapons.

 The recoil forces alone would be tremendous. Prototypes underwent trials in early 1942. The results exceeded expectations. The gun achieved a muzzle velocity of 98 m/s, delivering penetration figures that made every existing anti-tank gun obsolete overnight. On May 1st, 1942, the weapon was formally approved for service.

 Then came the problem that nearly derailed everything. The carriage, the massive split trail structure needed to absorb recoil from such a powerful gun, proved extraordinarily difficult to manufacture. Production fell behind schedule. By autumn 1942, Army intelligence learned that Tiger tanks were appearing in North Africa. British forces desperately needed the 17 pounder, but the proper carriages simply did not exist in sufficient numbers.

 The solution was pure British improvisation. Cenamed Feeasant, engineers mounted the 17 pounder barrel onto 25 pounder field gun carriages, creating a hybrid weapon that worked, in the words of one assessment, on the limits of its design. The riveted box trail carriages were never meant to handle nearly 3,000 ft pers of muzzle velocity, but they held together.

 The first 100 guns were rushed to North Africa before proper carriages were available. British commanders were sending a weapon to war on equipment that might shake itself apart with every shot. The gamble paid off at Medanine on March 6th, 1943. Approximately 470 anti-tank guns, including the new 17 pounders, waited in prepared positions as RML launched his final offensive.

 The attack collapsed against the British gun line. British testing of captured Tigers confirmed what the combat had suggested. The 17 pounder could penetrate Tiger armor at ranges where other Allied guns were useless. When proper split trail carriages finally arrived for the invasion of Sicily in July 1943, the pheasant era ended.

 But those improvised guns had proven the concept under fire. The technical specifications explain why the 17 pounder dominated armored combat. The gun fired a 7.7 kg projectile through a barrel 165 in long, achieving that crucial 98 m/s muzzle velocity. At 500 m, standard armorpiercing capped ballistic cap rounds, penetrated 163 mm of rolled homogeneous armor.

 At 1,000 m, penetration remained 150 mm. For context, the Tiger carried 100 mm of frontal armor. The Panther’s turret was 110 mm. Both were within comfortable engagement range for the 17 pounder with penetration to spare. But the real transformation came with a revolutionary new ammunition type. Armor-piercing discarding Sabo developed by British researchers at the armament’s research department used principles the French had explored before the war but never perfected.

 The concept was elegant in its simplicity. A small tungsten carbide penetrator just 38 mm in diameter sat within a lightweight sabot that fell away after leaving the barrel. Because tungsten carbide is significantly denser than steel, a smaller penetrator could carry the same mass in a more concentrated form. The reduced projectile weight, only 3 1/2 kg compared to the standard round 7.

7 kg, allowed muzzle velocity to reach an astonishing 1,24 m/s. The penetration figures were extraordinary. At 500 m, APDS punched through 256 mm of armor. At 1,000 m, 2533 mm. These figures come from controlled firing tables, and real combat depends on angle, plate quality, and hit probability. But they explain why crews suddenly believed again.

However, APDS came with significant problems. Dispersion was noticeably worse than standard rounds, making longrange hits unreliable. The ammunition remained scarce throughout the war and was issued in limited quantities. A PCBC remained the standard round for most engagements. If you are finding this deep dive into British engineering interesting, consider subscribing.

 It takes a moment and helps the channel continue producing content like this. Now, back to what happened when the 17 pounder met German armor in Normandy. The weapon’s most famous platform was the Sherman Firefly. Created through engineering ingenuity when the official approach failed. The A30 Challenger tank designed specifically to carry the 17 pounder proved too tall, too thinly armored, and mechanically unreliable.

 Vicer’s engineer WGK Kilborn proposed an alternative. He would fit the massive gun into the standard Sherman turret. Everyone said it was impossible. The Sherman’s turret ring was too small, the recoil mechanism too long, the brereech too large. Kilborn solved each problem systematically. He shortened the recoil cylinders, rotated the brereech 90°, added an armored box to the turret rear for the radio equipment displaced by the gun’s travel.

 The hull machine gunner position was eliminated to create ammunition storage, reducing the crew to four. The result was cramped, difficult to operate, and offered only 77 rounds compared to 90 in standard Shermans. None of that mattered. The Firefly could kill Tigers and Panthers at ranges where they could not effectively respond.

 By D-Day, 342 Fireflies were available, typically issued one per four tank troop. The distinctive long-barreled Shermans became priority targets for German gunners who quickly learned to identify them. According to veteran accounts, tank commanders and anti-tank gun crews were instructed to eliminate fireflies first.

 The threat was serious enough that British units developed elaborate counter measures. British crews responded with camouflage. Some counter-shaded barrels with white paint on the underside to create the illusion of shorter length. Others installed fake muscle brakes midway down the barrel where 75 mm guns normally ended. Some turned turrets backward with dummy barrels mounted on the bustle while concealing the real gun under branches.

These measures suggest crews believed the targeting threat was genuine. Regardless of whether German orders specifically mandated it, the combat record justified the German caution. On June 9th, 1944 near Noron Besson, Lieutenant GK Henry’s Firefly engaged Panthers from 12th SS Panza Division. The German attack came in strength.

 12 Panthers advancing against British positions in what should have been an overwhelming assault. The gunner, Trooper Chapman, knocked out five Panthers with only six rounds, helping repel an attack that cost the Germans seven of 12 tanks engaged. One gun, six rounds, five kills. The mathematics of armored warfare had fundamentally changed.

 5 days later at Lonji, Sergeant Harris of 4th 7th Dragoon Guards demonstrated the tactical flexibility the Firefly provided. Engaging Panthers near Tilly Cersul, Harris destroyed five enemy tanks by changing position between shots to avoid return fire. He understood what every Firefly commander learned quickly. The long barrel was both blessing and curse.

 It could kill anything on the battlefield, but its distinctive silhouette drew concentrated fire. Shoot and move. Shoot and move. The Imperial War Museum holds documentation of this action. The most famous engagement came on August 8th, 1944 near Santenon de Cranil during Operation Totalize. Trooper Joe Echkins, gunner on Sergeant Douglas Gordon’s Firefly named Veliki Luki from First Northamptonshire Yomenry spotted Tigers advancing near Route National 158.

 In approximately 12 minutes, Ekans destroyed three Tiger tanks and later a Panza 4. The regimental war diary recorded the specific turret numbers of the destroyed Tigers 312, 0007, and 314. Tank 007 is widely accepted as the vehicle of Michael Wittman, the legendary German tank ace credited with 138 tank kills.

 The man who had terrorized British armor at Villa Bokage 2 months earlier, died to a weapon he never saw coming. Wittman had carved his reputation killing Cromwells and Shermans with impunity, their guns useless against his Tiger’s armor. But the Firefly changed the equation. At Villa Boage, Witman had met fireflies that damaged several of his supporting Tigers during his withdrawal.

 Two months later, the 17 pounder finished what it had started. The 17 pounder also served on other platforms, each with distinct tactical characteristics. The Archer tank destroyer mounted the gun facing rearward on a Valentine chassis. a configuration that seemed absurd but allowed immediate withdrawal after firing. 655 were built.

 Royal artillery crews operating archers from October 1944 generally preferred them over American M10s. The Achilles was an American M10 tank destroyer with its original 76 mm gun replaced by the 17 pounder. Approximately 1,100 were converted, making it the second most numerous 17p pounder armored vehicle after the Firefly.

 Comparative analysis reveals why the British gun dominated. Against the American 76mm M1 gun used in Sherman 76s, the 17 pounder penetrated 118 mm at 1,000 yd compared to 89 mm for the American weapon. The British offered the 17 pounder to the United States, but American ordinance preferred retaining their own design.

 Against the German 88mm KWK36, the Tiger’s own gun. The 17 pounder actually penetrated more armor, 118 mm versus 101 mm at the same range. British tank crews facing Tigers carried a weapon more powerful than what the Tiger itself mounted. Soviet evaluation at Gorhovitz concluded the 17 pounder met requirements for anti-tank artillery with penetration approximately equal to their own 100 mm bees 3.

 This was high praise from an ally with extensive anti-tank combat experience. The weapon was not perfect. Aedius ammunition suffered from significant accuracy problems. Dispersion was noticeably worse than standard rounds and hit probability at longer ranges dropped considerably. The primary cause was an undersized muzzle brake aperture that prevented clean subot separation.

 Field engineering teams visited units to bore muzzle brakes wider, but accuracy remained problematic throughout the war. Most crews relied on APCBC for the majority of their engagements. Some myths deserve careful examination. The claim that Germans always targeted fireflies first appears in many accounts and veteran testimonies.

 German tactical manuals did begin advising caution against the long-barreled Shermans. Whether this translated into systematic targeting remains debated by historians, but the British camouflage efforts suggest crews took the threat seriously enough to disguise their vehicles. Yet, the psychological impact was real and measurable in German behavior.

 A German veteran interviewed for a tank documentary described surviving what he called the curse of the Firefly in Normandy and Belgium. “The screams of men burning to death inside tanks,” he recalled, was something you could never forget. British firing trials on a captured Tiger from Vitman’s own unit demonstrated why.

 17 pounder rounds caused severe internal damage, even when they did not fully penetrate, with spoing and fragmentation judged lethal to crews. The sheer kinetic energy of a shell traveling at 900 m/s turned the interior of a tank into a death trap of ricocheting metal. The hunter had become the hunted. Production eventually reached approximately 15,000 guns across all marks.

 By May 1945, over 4,000 vehicles mounted 17 pounders. The towed gun weighed approximately three long tons, required a crew of 5 to six, and could fire 10 aimed rounds per minute in skilled hands. The weapon served in the British Army of the Rine after the war, saw action in Korea against tanks and bunkers, and equipped forces in Argentina, Egypt, and several NATO nations into the 1980s.

 The greatest legacy was establishing design philosophy for postwar British armor. The Centurion, often called the best tank of its era, was specifically designed around the 17 pounder. Six Mark 1’s reached Belgium in May 1945, too late for combat, but carrying the weapon that had proven British engineering could match any armor in the world.

These first centurions represented the culmination of lessons learned from Tunisia to the Rine. Every improvement informed by combat experience with the 17 pounder. The success of high velocity guns led eventually to the L7 105 mm, which became the NATO standard tank gun and armed tanks from America to Israel to Germany itself.

 returned to Tunisia in February 1943. Those Tiger crews advancing confidently through the desert had every reason to believe themselves untouchable. Nothing the Allies had deployed could threaten them at range. Nothing could penetrate their armor from the front. They were wrong. British engineers working from a meeting room in London more than 2 years earlier had already built the weapon that would change everything.

 The gun looked oversized because it was oversized, deliberately designed to generate velocities no one else thought possible. The improvised carriage looked wrong because it was wrong. A desperate adaptation that held together through sheer necessity. What made the 17 pounder exceptional was not myth, but documented reality.

 In Normandy, it was the most common Western Allied tank gun that could credibly take on Panthers and Tigers from the front at practical combat ranges. When Soviet evaluators tested the gun at Gorhovitz, they found it matched their own 100 mm Beast 3, a weapon they considered excellent. When 144 surveyed British tank veterans were asked to rate their equipment, they called the 17 pounder absolutely first rate in our priority for equipment.

These were men who had faced Tigers in the Boage and Panthers in the Reichvald. They knew what worked and what did not. The numbers tell the final story. Over 2,000 Fireflies built, 655 archers, more than a thousand Achilles, thousands of towed guns from Tunisia to the Ela. a PDS rounds that could punch through 230 mm of armor at 1,000 meters.

 And everywhere the 17 pounder went, German heavy armor died. German engineering had produced the most feared tank of the war. British engineering produced the gun that killed

 

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